hillary clinton has to be aware of all this support. where do you think that the secretary stands right now? >> well, as she said, she wants to take some time off, perhaps hopefully get a grandchild, really unwind. she said in a couple interviews now. but she's done nothing to tamp down speculation at all that she could run again in four years. and in politics, unless you issue a sherman-esque statement absolutely no and say those kinds of words, it's not really a no. it's a maybe. >> sherman-esque statement. david, let me bring you in because one of the things we heard from secretary clinton this week was her defensive viewing of ambassador susan rice who continues to come under fire from some republicans for comments she made on the attack in the u.s. consulate in benghazi. take a listen. >> susan rice has done a great job as our u.n. ambassador. she has been a stalwart colleague in a lot of the tough decisions that we've had to make. and certainly with respect to defending our national interests and national security at the united na